Being here at the Hump, I've heard that the farmers are getting paid very well for leaving, to the point where they may not have to work again. I cannot say for sure but, that is what the highers I interact with are saying.

But saying that, I would be pissed if someone no matter what the amount of money was, said that i have to leave MY land that my great great great grand dad farmed and left the land to be continued to be farmed by his family.

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I agree with all sides! BUT again, the U.S. is moving out of prime land in Seoul and moving into farmland into Pyongtaek. I have a feeling this is what the Korean government is using to justify the move. They can sell off the land in Seoul and pay the Pyongtaek farmers very well for their land. The U.S. is simply in the middle of this.

The U.S. military has to move some where! No matter where the U.S. forces go, someone will be angry. Hopefully the Korean government is paying the farmers well (which I am sure they are) and this will eventually pass.

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No apology necessary. I enjoy the dialog. I guess the young lady who attempted to read in your post things that were not there. I do not want to attempt to second guess this invidiual; however, I am curious how she jumped to this conclusion. Perhaps it is a perception of the Gen X?

I am always amused by the believe held by most that American's do not eat spicy foods.

The Manager From the West Side Club called to tell me that the Commander for Camp Humphrey's was locking the base down again.... is this true... .my band is supposed to play there on the 17th..... She said if the restrictions aren't lifted that the gig will be canceled....

Does any body have the insight on this ?
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Well i take back what i said, one of our pilots here (who was born outside the Camp Humphreys gate) said the farmers are only getting 1970 prices for there land????

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The Appearance of "BlueFrog and Company" at the West Side Club " in AnjungRi has been canceled.

Protest by Korean Students and the concern for the safety of U.S. Military and their dependents has led to the area being put "Off Limites" until Further notice.

We regret the Inconvenience.

BlueFrog and Company

I went down today, Saturday March 18, 2006, for my first visit to Camp Humphreys in 35 years. Getting in was a guess, as there are no signs on the entrance way for walking in. It is an opening in the wall, two city blocks right from the drive in gate! It is a maze of revolving gates. You just push on each one until you find that none of them open IN, then there is a building with a locked door. If you find your way around to the end of the building, a door is unlocked. Still no arrows or signs. Ask at the window inside, and they say "Keep going". The next unmarked door at the end of the hall is the ID checkpoint! They have a nice runway, and a decent PX & commissary. Things have grown quite a bit since 1972. Their village has become a city. They are still surrounded by a lot of rice paddies. While we were at lunch, the bus was delayed a few minutes by a "scheduled protest", according to the bus driver. Twenty minutes later, we rode back to the walk through gate. Escaping was easier. There was no indication, if a protest had actually occurred.
Yes, the Stars and stripes covered a protest on Wednesday. There were a lot of KNPs sent down according to the paper, 4.300 KN Riot Police! The article said," Some local residents... scuffled with South Korean riot police and four female protesters were injured and taken to area hospitals, police said." Farther on it said," Police said protesters gained control of two backhoes, leading to some scuffling." The villages surrounding the Post were put off limits Wednesday until 8 PM Thursday, (when green beer flowed
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So, there was some scuffling. There was NO indication HOW MANY protesters showed up Wednesday, only that four females were injured, and there was "Scuffling" over two backhoes.

This took up 50% of the front page of the Stars & Stripes!

Don't get your shorts in a knot over this. The Ministry of National Defense is going to put barbed wire around the area that is reserved for the Military expansion, and it will be a done deal. No doubt that the Korean Government took the farmers land, and for some of them, their livelihood and family heritage. Probably they didn't reimburse them nearly as much as they wanted, or deserved. Most city governments do this on a regular basis, even in America.
As we returned to Seoul, there was a little tent set up by Yongsan Train Station, with paper statues and a story about the poor farmers in Pyong-Taek and their plight. It was done very tastefully, and as far as I could see, with no indication of animosity toward the US. Educated people understand that the Korean Government ASKED the US MIlitary to return the Yongsan Post to them, and offered the US Military the farmland by Pyong-Taek. The very valuable land in Seoul is larger in area than that which will be leased to us in the South. We should all understand the plight of the farmers, and empathise
with them. If there is any hint of "Yankee Go Home", it is minuscule, mis-directed, and fueled by North Korean sympathizers. There can be more protests, because it is a free country, thanks to the US of A and our Allies who fought to make it so.

Joe;

I am still a little optimistic as to whether the move. The one thing I know for almost certain it will not happen in 2008 as they have been announcing. recall a plan to relocate to Waegewan in 1983.

It really comes down to who will be funding the move. The relocation down south will be far fewer than what is currently projected. The move will also be pushed back and will not occur until 2011 - 2015.

May i ask where you are getting your info? As fast as they are tearing down and buildiing here at the HUMP i would say that 2008 could be done? Just looking for info as i'll be here till 2008.

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Ask yourself what has to occur prior to increase an area population the 3 times the current size. The infrastructure that is required to support a move of the size projected is a monumental undertaking. We are not looking at moving a Battalion size element into Pyongtaek. The projected numbers are several thousand. The raw sewage treatment as well as the fresh water reserve will take at least 18 months to 2 years. The Army will not relocate to an area that is unable to support the force under normal conditions. The Korean government also recently extended the evacuation of the locals. Have you seen any construction projects that was completed in a minimal amount of time. The museum behind the ball field in Yongsan started in 1996. The bridge connecting Main and South Post was an 18 month project. They have not even decided who would shoulder the burden of the cost. The ROK government is also very slow with payment on the current operations. There is no way this move will happen in 2008.