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Old 04-20-2006, 06:37 PM
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Korean Students Protest Tough Disciplinary Action

It is items like this that make me feel the Korean youth may be just as bad as the American youth. This is reported from The Korea Times.

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Korea University students Thursday urged the school to revoke its decision to oust seven students for confining professors in the school’s main office for 17 hours during an April 5 protest.

An additional five students were suspended for one month. Seven others were banned from attending classes and other school activities for one week.

The disciplinary action, which was announced on Wednesday, was the heaviest ever slapped on students, banning them from readmission to the university.


Basically, these students lock teachers in a room for 17 hours while protesting, and they feel that being suspended is too tough? In America that is called kidnapping. Holding someone against their will for almost a day is not "confining" like the Korean newspaper states.

This is the typical response from students.

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A 27-year-old student, identified as Kim, said that even if students did something wrong, it is too extreme a punishment.
It's called taking responsibility for your actions! When you do something wrong, you must pay the penalty!

Here is the response from the school.

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The school’s disciplinary panel also issued a statement, saying that the students’ action to confine professors is an unprecedented case in the school’s history, shaking an academic tradition and history as a whole, which should not have taken place.

``Some radical students disrespected the school’s order by sticking to their own argument in violent ways,’’ the statement said.

The school said in the statement that illegal violent demonstrations cannot be synonymous with a sound student movement, calling on students to stop illegal and violent protests on the campus.
The panel unanimously agreed to force the seven students who took the lead on the confinement to be expelled from the school.
``Those students broke the relationship between professors and students, which is supposed to be tied with respect and love. Thus they don’t deserve to be regarded as students any more,’’ Sung Young-shin, director of the student affairs office, said.
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Old 04-22-2006, 04:29 AM
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It is items like this that make me feel the Korean youth may be just as bad as the American youth. This is reported from The Korea Times.





Basically, these students lock teachers in a room for 17 hours while protesting, and they feel that being suspended is too tough? In America that is called kidnapping. Holding someone against their will for almost a day is not "confining" like the Korean newspaper states.

This is the typical response from students.



It's called taking responsibility for your actions! When you do something wrong, you must pay the penalty!

Here is the response from the school.
I'm a univ teacher and y'all aint seen nothing from these students. They have the right to complain about their grades. At the end of every semester we get a constant stream of students visiting our offices or emailing us begging we change their grades. You got to hear the sob stories we get from "oh if I don't get a ___ I'll lose my scholarship and have to work at daddys farm", to "I'm transferring univs and I need a good grade" I could go on.

The worst ones are the students who flunk the course, some may have shown up 2-3x the whole semester and they come in (Korean Univs have attendence policies where if they miss a certain number of classes they automatically flunk). Worst is sometimes they won't leave!!!! I've had to physically drag a student out of my office on more than one occasion.

What makes it worse is they then rip us in evals on this and some good teachers get non-renwewed.

There are some Korean univ students who are very good, excellent students and real assets then there are some who think just because they survived the entrance exam and the years of mommy forcing them to hogwon they are entitled to do whatever they want and pass.
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Old 04-22-2006, 05:34 AM
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I'm happy to hear a teacher tell us the true story here. We have heard rumors about the Universities being diploma mills, and I have seen that students a few years back were penalized because parents didn't give teachers cash gifts and the like. In a country that wants so badly to become advanced, the school systems seem to be in dire need of government reform. Please continue to keep us informed!
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Old 04-22-2006, 05:41 AM
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Welcome Blues Brother! Glad to have you on the forum and thanks for sharing the info.

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Another problem that has occurred on several occasions is faculty plagiarism. One incident that raised the flag was a professor who submitted a grad students work as his own to a scientific journal. He would have probably gotten away with it except the article had appeared in the same journal previously. The recent discovery of the cloning professor was not a total surprise. Since it made world news, they had no other choice but to come down hard on this individual.

I have met and worked with several professors at a prestigious university in Daegu. Some of these professors attended ivy league schools in the US.
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Spoiled Kids

Korean kids, like American kids, like to do the crime without doing the time.

Any kid, either American or Korean, should be HELD TOTALLY ACCOUNTABLE for their actions. Isn't this a part of a democracy?
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Korean kids, like American kids, like to do the crime without doing the time.

Any kid, either American or Korean, should be HELD TOTALLY ACCOUNTABLE for their actions. Isn't this a part of a democracy?
Yes, I agree with you.
Most of korean pepole is spoiled kids.
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