Any update on this?

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Well, there is no more drama to report...I pay her a salary to cook, clean, wash clothes. My place is so clean I'm almost afraid to touch anything. She has a friend that ran away from a similar situation but she has to work 12 hours a day in a factory, then she works at night bartending. $2.50/hr at a factory, I didn't even ask about bartending...probably tips only.

Her friends visa has expired, so it's only a matter of time before she gets caught...How long is anyone's guess. I introduced her to a co-worker of mine, maybe things will work out for them...She is a really nice girl, hard working, and ran for the same reason...Simply did not want to sell her body for the Korean club owners.

Interesting how quickly the factories and clubs will allow someone to work illegally, I have no idea what penalties or consequences they face for hiring someone off the books like that but obviously the penalties are not severe enough to make much difference.

hmmmm...

At this point she has no option other than to go back to the Philippines before her visa also expires. Once she returns, she can get a visitor's visa back to Korea...Not sure of those details...Anyone know? Luckily, she was able to get her visa/passport back in her hands before escaping the club up north.

So, yeah...I will send her home when the time comes and maybe with enough money to support her there until she can return legally without having to worry about immigration issues.

But the girls that are here past their visas...I don't know what options they have. I hear there is a heavy fine for those wanting to leave once their visa has expired. It's a bit of a catch 22 isn't it? They have to work very long, hard hours to make ends meet, so how can they possibly afford the fines?

I still have quite few questions unanswered. Still listening.

Here is a good USFK briefing. Some good facts and phone numbers on the last two slides.

http://area3.korea.army.mil/pht.html

Mike

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You continue to argue that the US military is the reason that human trafficking is and continues to be a problem in Korea, but you haven't given a single fact to support your argument.

The problem existed long before any US military members stepped foot on this Peninsula and there are thousands of references that you can read on the Internet to support this fact. Perhaps you didn’t know that the Japanese military actively participated in human trafficking for sexual servitude during the Asia Pacific War (1931-1945), or that state-sponsored activities existed in Korea during the Chosun Dynasty (1392-1910). Anyway, feel free to do a little research on this subject before making unfounded accusations.

As for the Juicy Bars, they are neither owned nor operated by the US military or any of its members. The vast majority of Juicy Bars are owned and operated by Koreans, and unfortunately, they have chosen to strategically place these establishments near US military installations to specifically target lonely GIs and milk them for every dollar they can get.

As many USFKforums members have already stated, the truth is that the US military is not the cause of this problem. If anything, it is leading the charge in putting an end to these practices. US military members have been and are currently being prosecuted for actively participating in and/or supporting human trafficking and prostitution. In December alone, over 50 Juicy Bars were put off-limits and effectively put out of business.

You seem to think that the US military can stop socio-economic problems within a foreign country, but you’re mistaken. The USFK commander can put every Juicy Bar off limits and the underlying problems will still exist. Ultimately, the Korean populace and their government control human trafficking across their borders and inhumane practices within them.

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I agree with all of the above, except I'm not entirely sure about the Texas Aggies!
The basic "Problem" would still go on, even if the U.S. never came here.
We (the U.S.) were actually instrumental in influencing the non-renewal of visas for the Russian Girls, who were so very well liked by the Americans AND STILL ARE by the Koreans. What few remain, I am told, are located in areas reserved for the "entertainment" of well-to-do Koreans.
I believe that the reason we are/were against their presence was exemplified a few weeks ago by the arrest of a Captain, who is accused of fraternizing with a communist agent! (Guess she still had a visa due to being married to a GI.)

I have this feeling that the one post in this thread was supposed to be in response to another thread and that the post I originally posted in this thread has disappeared into the ether (was first time user then).

I like the bars (so does my wife) but have no problem facing off with the owners. They tried to get me to pay off her contract, I said no. Unknown to me, she was coerced into handing over her bank book. We tried to tell the bank it was lost, but they said there was no money in it (come to find out that the Stereo Club owner Mr. Pak was brothers with the bank manager). She had been smart enough to keep the ticket that he had purchased for her though. She was out $2k though.

The relationship with the promoter is that upon returning, the girls pay a fee to the manager. My wife's promoter was a friend and she forgave what was owed to her. She also refused further work with Mr. Pak.

I can say that you will have next to zero luck with her returning to Korea with a visit visa. Best bet is to get another bar owner or factory manager to start on a new work visa. Otherwise she will be stuck back in the PI or stuck illegaly in Korea. My wife will be moving to Korea from the PI with a visit visa, but she is my wife. Girlfriends don't work.

Tunyusan, good on you for helping somebody out. People do get burned, but some do get lucky (like me). My wife is a good judge of character and would be happy to call out any girls who have bad intentions... but I won't be there until June.

Good luck!

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Your story is just like at least twenty other stories I heard from juicy girls (jg for future reference) and prostitutes in Korea.

Here is something for you to consider:

1. The girl had many opportunities to escape without your help. For example in one of her days off when she wasn't refused to go out. You wrote she didn't know what kind of songs she was going to sing in Korean bars; so, once she arrived and realized she wasn't going to sing songs, she had at least two days off when she could run away.

2. What is your income? How many cell phones do you have? I am almost sure only one. So, isn't it suspicious that a girl from a poor country who came to Korea to help her "ill parents" and has only been to Korea for a month and hasn't been paid for her job yet, has two cell phones?
Did she buy them? Where did she get money for them?

3. Isn't it illogical for the owner to be satisfied with a passport and a broken phone and not to do a better search?
Have you ever seen her broken cell phone?

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Good to hear from you again!
You are very astute in seeing that men are easily fooled by girls. But don't forget- love is blind. Followed closely or preceded by infatuation, awe, and maybe even lust. Maybe we just feel sorry for someone and want to do a good deed, no matter what the circumstances that got us to this point. Perhaps we want to help out, and would rather not look for the reason a girl got into a predicament in the first place. If we are mature enough to deal with the possible consequences, there is nothing wrong with that! If we are young, inexperienced and unaware of the reality of life in the fast lane, then yes, a warning is warranted, for sure, especially from someone who perhaps knows all too well, maybe from personal experience, that the cards may be stacked against the dealer?

4. The passport, taken by the malicious owner, magically appears when you came to get her. Could it be that just because the passport had never been taken from her?

5. Some bar owners keep JG who work for them locked because girls go our and sleep with men without sharing that money with the bar owners. Smart of the owners, isn't it?

6. There is no single sign of human trafficking; she just made you believe that.

7. A new girl, believed to be difficult, gets to take the trash out? B$$$$$$t!

8. How many bags of clothes did she take with her? Wouldn't it be too risky in the situation as dangerous as you describe it, to take care of clothes?

9. Guys who date JG often say that they don't have any problems with meeting beautiful girls back home. To give their choice some weight?

10. There is no Mafia in Korea. A couple of souteneurs (ponces?) who can influence one policeman doesn't make a Mafia.

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