Ok-let's send everyone that has no prior assignments in the ROK to a class.
When you get the degree you seek, or when you have time, maybe you could promote a job as an advisor to the commander, USFK! You know, the Military has been fighting the education and discipline problem since soldiering began.
I think it needs to be elevated to civilian control. Someone educated in dealing with people, not just trained to kill & clean rifles.
Back sometime after Pyongtaek Air Base became Camp Humphrey's, I met a commander there, who introduced himself as "Colonel George Best, a readin', writin' Infantryman." He pulled no punches-he knew who he was and was rightfully proud. A genuine readin' writin' infantryman is a rare breed! I wish he were here now. Don't read me wrong. I admit to being predjudiced in favor of Air Force officers. I am proud to have been there and done that. But I also respect the many Army Officers who have served to the best of their ability. It just seems that some had more ability than others! A civilian trained in human relations could be a real help to an intelligent commander that was willing to listen.

What did I miss? When did the age limit for boozing drop below 21?

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Well, it was lower, but I'm not sure when it went back up to 21.
The discussion here is- Sejongeb thinks 24 is a good point to cut off a requirement for "mandatory orientation." I don't know if there is a cut-off point- some people never mature. My wife keeps hoping I'll grow up someday, but I secretly hope it never happens!

Well over 2 years ago.

I think what needs to be done is that this should be NO SOLDIERS first assignment. That is where alot of the problem is young kids away from home and there only option is a bottle. They have been taken away from evreything they know and sent over here.

Just my opinion....

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They must find it difficult...

Those who have taken authority as the truth, rather than truth as the authority. --Gerald Massey

Well, sir, that is a solution I never thought about! Though I suspect, and I did see in a recent post, that there are still volunteers out there who are looking forward to "Seeing the World". That was one of the reasons I joined, and I was anxious to go somewhere other than my hometown. I had my 21st birthday in Hong Kong. Sewed on my second stripe in Taipei, Taiwan. I guess I would have been disappointed had I not come overseas fresh out of tech school.
I'm going to stick with my thoughts that there is no one shooting at us in Korea, and that means there is no excuse we can't take the time to make the young soldier our first priority, and make darn sure he/she is briefed thoroughly and taught to act like a proper guest in this country. If he/she has not learned discipline at home, then we can swiftly teach how to be responsible for ones own actions. A prisoner for 30 days? No, a student for 30 days. Include a supervised trip to town. Include trips to interesting places. When I was in basic training, the Chaplain brought girls from San Antonio on Base to dance with us. ( I liked hunting & fishing better, but it was really thoughtful of him, anyway. ) Bowling on post is a great sport, but Korean girls are so good at that, they show me up yet today! It has been a great day- I need to sleep now.

No doubt Mr. Joe, there are young people in life that are very set in life prior to age of 21. Believe it or not there are people who want to come here and are not allowed to come by the Army?? When they want to come.

The thing is you never hear about a Soldier who has done good, just the Soldier who has done bad.

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They must find it difficult...

Those who have taken authority as the truth, rather than truth as the authority. --Gerald Massey

Thanks for clarifying the age thing here. No first assignment would be an excellent idea and makes sense. Some never or may never mature either. But one things is certain, if not properly addressed the situation will continue. I'm thinking that maybe the USFK should hire some of those FOX News personalities to spin a more favorable light on US-ROK relations (another subject here).

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You told me once what a SM was. Now you need to tell me what the KDVA and KWVA is?
I thought the Klan moved out of VA & WV by now!

Korean War Veterans Assoc. and Korea Defense Veterans of America. Most of the Klan did move out to GA, MS, AL, IN. A few dyed their sheets and stayed though. Sweating when they see that J.C. Penny's commerial on 'white sale' and praying for a chance to get on the Springer Show!

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Not so sure we should be this strick but it sure would open some young kids eyes.

KATUSA's are not allowed to have cell phones while they are doing there 2 year stint. A KATUSA was caught with a cell phone and is now in jail for 3 - 10 days.

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They must find it difficult...

Those who have taken authority as the truth, rather than truth as the authority. --Gerald Massey