I know that certain places like barber shops and Soju tents are always off limits but who determines when others places are put off limits. Here at Cp. Humphreys sometime around the middle of September when there was some scheduled protests going on, the Pyeongtaek Train Station was placed off limits. There's a sign beside the walk thru gate where they tell you off limits areas. As far as I know these protests are over but they still have the train station as being off limits. This is a major inconvenience to us and I want to find out why the train station is still off limits. Who should I call to find out? I just want to know if they are still expecting problems there or did someone forget to change the sign.

I don't know about the Hump, but all AF bases have a base newspaper where you can usually ask the installation commander stuff like that. It actually provides a good outlet for him/her to pass information to everyone else. For this type of issues, I would definitely check into that forum...

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For USFK Off Limits Info Go Here:http://www.usfk.mil/usfk/index.html?...mits/index.asp

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Turk got that one for you! That list is current and covers all of Korea.

You might get a warm feeling by asking the MP Desk to keep their signs updated. As of 29 Sept it is "Thousand Won Alley" next to the Station that is off limits, NOT the Station itself.

I just noted yesterday on my Yongsan Garrison thread that there ar 66 places off limits in Itaewon alone! You guys are lucky! They are essentially bars, so don't worry about the restaurants and businesses in Itaewon.
And the Nashville, Seoul Pub,and Grand Ole Opry plus others that advertise on USFK.Classifieds are not on the list. Always check first!

I know at Osan Air Base there is a large brown sign as you leave the walking gate that states what general businesses are off-limits. Do any other installations have this?

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That's the sign I'm talking about that has Pyeongtaek station on the off limits section. It tells the current curfew hours, has a list of places that are permanently off limits and then a section for temporary places off limits.

At Yongsan we have 13 Gates, including the walk-in-only Gates, and Contract Guards. I don't think there are posted signs of off-limits establishments, but hopefully the information is in a book there. I know that a call to the Provost Marshall's Office inside Gate 1 will get you the current info.
It goes without saying that it is the individual member's responsibility to insure he/she knows where not to go.

I was a little surprised to see so many places off limits in Iteawon. Has there been that much trouble there in the recent past or is it primarily based on the current human traffiking guidlelines? Its a shame to have virtually the whole place off limits. I used to hang at the nashville because they had good food but a trip up the hill was always mandatory and fun when ever I was there.

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65 of the 66 off-limits areas named in Itaewon are followed by the designation P/HT. The other one is a Motel, designated F/P.
F/P-Force Protection is normally caused by fighting or similar threat.
P/HT is Prostitution/Human Trafficking.

The USFK Command Policies can be found on the index, page one, at
http://www.usfk.mil/

Briefly, the Human Trafficking Policy says all members, military, civilian, contractors and all persons should avoid these areas as you are subject to apprehension and prosecution under to ROK laws that originated in 1994. Of course we now have UCMJ laws also, since last year, which apply to the Military.
Essentially there is no choice in warning our citizens of the possibility of being caught up in a raid, or being a part of the human trafficking by contributing to its existence. The US among other Nations, (Britain had raids on the news yesterday, among their illegal aliens), are making a lot of noise about P/HT these days. Morally, it is an evil practice, and is said to be the most lucrative business for Organized Crime. Right up there with drugs.
Perhaps a bar owner could post a policy of no P/HT allowed on their premises and then petition to get back on- limits. But, I suspect that they can make more money total from the way they now operate, ignoring P/HT laws and paying off the police. Just my opinion. Play with fire, you can get burned.

But the same moral arguments can be made for just about any GI bar town anywhere, from A town to Weagwon to Songtan, where ever. If one were to look hard enough through the surface, you would find there are still young ladies selling themselves. Morality aside, it seems as if the whole 'hill' is off limits. Why is it so disproporationate to the other places?

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