Cuss as you would like....I asked Dee to do that, just so people would undestand what can happen when something is written on-line.

Remember, we had a person removed from the military becasue of what he wrote on this board....

If you would have said the statment above and opened up like this before you started your other statments, this thread would only be 1/3 of what it is now.

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CH-47 SI

They must find it difficult...

Those who have taken authority as the truth, rather than truth as the authority. --Gerald Massey

Well, I guess I saw through the "Fistfight" joke for sure! Maybe because I've been called "Elderly" before!
We are a bunch of tattletales! I enjoyed that, too!
Trying to use long discourses on a computer board to change the way people think is pretty much a waste. But I have had lots of fun watching!
I never had a commander in over 35 years in government service who used foul language. I could say some things that would infuriate people and cause more grousing, but I won't bother. As I said, we all should know by now where we stand. Even crusty old Ironsider wouldn't knowingly say bad words in front of children and ladies! Infantrymen are a different breed. Look at Patton. One of my favorite movies of all time!
Anybody remember Colonel Best, one of the first Army Colonels to serve at Camp Humphreys when it was first built from the former Pyongtaek Air Base? I met him once in the barbershop. I believe his first name was Fred. He introduced himself to me as,"Colonel Fred Best, the readin', writin' Infantryman !" A heck of a guy-and so proud of his job.
God bless 2 ID, and best of luck to their new Major General, who used to be at Yongsan. Y'all can look forward to improved morale and conditions at Casey, I believe.

I have just been reading this and haven’t said anything until now, but here is my two cents.

What I see is a serious decline in moral obligations; to yourselves, to others, to the world as a whole. While I do enjoy a little disagreement and have, on occasions, baited someone into an argument for the sake of the “fight”. I think personal attacks, wither said in jest or not, is totally uncalled for. How would you feel if your mother was reading this? Would she be proud? Let me wait for the juvenal “are you talking about my momma?” attacks.


Yes, but you did CHOOSE, and in making that choice you took an oath. Respect is a large part of being in the military.

Just because others have failed to live up to the ARMY values (and I believe that the other branches are pretty close to the same) doesn’t mean you shouldn’t. You should always strive to be a better person. Just because you old enough to Vote, Drink, Own a Gun and Kill People doesn’t make you a man. Being a man is doing the right thing even when things are going to hell all around you.

Sure I have the dirtiest mouth when I’m playing poker or alone with friends. But in public I am in check. I think the youth have lost that switch in their heads that lets them know when and where is the right time. And just so you know I’m not that old. I’m only 31.


We have been at war with “terror” for longer then I was born. 9/11 was not the first time that America was attacked from the inside and it won’t be the last. But war is the one time that we should keep ourselves and not prove that enemy right. How do you think we look to those that watch us? Do you even care?

What about everyone else? I don’t want to hear your stupid mouth talking loud on your cell while at the Townhouse. Let me eat my pizza in peace. But no, I got to hear about your “Stupid motherf**king this” or your “B*tch *ss” that. Just keep it to yourself. Please.

That is all I got to say.

WOW..DrWorm,

Just WOW....

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CH-47 SI

They must find it difficult...

Those who have taken authority as the truth, rather than truth as the authority. --Gerald Massey

Thank you..whether you realize it or not, you just proved one of the major points I was trying to get across in my post. Posts made on this board, or any other board, for that matter, unfortunately don't come with laugh tracks, or inflection notes. Anyone reading them, can effectively read anything into that post they want. While you may have meant your post as a joke, someone reading it, given that there was no LOL, or other indication that it was a joke, etc. , could take it very seriously,and you could find yourself in a world of trouble.

You also brought up a very good point about 'pulling rank'. While I, in my post, never mentioned anything about rank at all, the fact of the matter is that this board is a very well known public board in the USFK, and you never know who might be reading it. The 'anonymous guest' checking the forum out could be General Bell himself,and none of us would never know it... so this isn't the best place to be bragging about breaking rules, bad behavior, etc. You may unintentionally be giving someone a bad impression of yourself that you may not want to be giving a bad impression, and that could come back and bite you in the butt later.

The bottom line, and this is advice that we all can take, and not just in this situation...the internet isn't as anonymous as you think, and like it or not, things you do or say on a public forum *can* actually have rammifications, subtle or dramatic.

Dee :)

Dr.Worm...

Well spoken post,and agreed.



I salute you, Sir.

Dee :)

Wow, excellent return to illustrate your point about childish comments. Define elderly and I will let you know if I qualify.

I have the utmost respect for the MEN that fight for our freedom. For the men that honor the uniform, moral code, and core values of the United States armed forces.

Respect for individuals who elect to flout their freedoms, distorting them to envelope their personal morals and beliefs? Nope, not a lot of respect there.

Little humor break here! On the lighter side, I just got this in my email today from a friend and I thought it belonged in this topic! LOL!

Dear Employees:

It has been brought to management's attention that some individuals throughout the company have been using foul language during the course of normal conversation with their co-workers.

Due to complaints received from some employees who may be easily offended, this type of language will no longer be tolerated.

We do, however, realize the critical importance of being able to accurately express your feelings when communicating with co-workers.

Therefore, a list of 18 New and Innovative 'TRY SAYING' phrases have been provided so that proper exchange of ideas and information can continue in an effective manner.

Number 1
TRY SAYING: I think you could use more training.
INSTEAD OF: You don't know what the f___ you're doing.

Number 2
TRY SAYING: She's an aggressive go-getter.
INSTEAD OF: She's a f___ing bit__.

Number 3
TRY SAYING: Perhaps I can work late.
INSTEAD OF: And when the f___ do you expect me to do this?

Number 4
TRY SAYING: I'm certain that isn't feasible.
INSTEAD OF: No f___ing way.

Number 5
TRY SAYING: Really?
INSTEAD OF: You've got to be sh___ing me!

Number 6
TRY SAYING: Perhaps you should check with...
INSTEAD OF: Tell someone who gives a sh__.

Number 7
TRY SAYING: I wasn't involved in the project.
INSTEAD OF: It's not my f___ing p roblem.

Number 8
TRY SAYING: That's interesting.
INSTEAD OF: What the f___?

Number 9
TRY SAYING: I'm not sure this can be implemented.
INSTEAD OF: This sh__ won't work.

Number 10
TRY SAYING: I'll try to schedule that.
INSTEAD OF: Why the f___ didn't you tell me sooner?

Number 11
TRY SAYING: He's not familiar with the issues.
INSTEAD OF: He's got his head up his a__.

Number 12
TRY SAYING: Excuse me, sir?
INSTEAD OF: Eat sh__ and die.

Number 13
TRY SAYING: So you weren't happy with it?
INSTEAD OF: Kiss my a__.

Number 14
TRY SAYING: I'm a bit overloaded at the moment.
INSTEAD OF: F__ it, I'm on salary.

Number 15
TRY SAYING: I don't think you understand.
INSTEAD OF: Shove it up you r a __.

N umber 16
TRY SAYING: I love a challenge.
INSTEAD OF: This f___ing job sucks.

Number 17
TRY SAYING: You want me to take care of that?
INSTEAD OF: Who the f___ died and made you boss?

Number 18
TRY SAYING: He's somewhat insensitive.
INSTEAD OF: He's a pr_ck.

Thank You,
Human Resources

Mr. Joe...

Just a friendly correction and to thank you for so aptly defending my post.
It was I (B4Real53) not Ginger Smurf who accompanied my husband to Camp Casey and am also retired after 20 yrs in military.

If you guys can't tell that I'm just talkin smack then you need your heads checked. This is an internet forum. Pulling rank is uncalled for. Chucksnee I don't hate you. Hell, I'd buy you a beer if we met at the bar. This is all I have to say... yes military people should avoid cussing around children and elderly. I could give a shit less what a grown woman thinks about my language. All grown women have heard cusswords. If they don't like it then wear headphones and listen to music. Military men will keep cussing regardless. I learned to cuss in the military. I never used foul language till I joined. Quite frankly cussing gets the point across faster.....