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Old 06-14-2007, 09:19 AM
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Re: 0-3 Housing

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Since my wife isn't an American, with her Taiwanese passport, can she still get an A-1 Visa, or will she only be able to stay in country for a limited amount of time?

If she can only stay there for a limited amount of time on each trip, We were thinking of having her just keep her residency within the states so her Green Card dosn't expire.
Ahhh,okay, since your wife isn't a full American citizen, we're getting into an area of international relations and bureaucracy that goes way beyond my expertise.

Given that the category of A-3 visa is more or less specifically for military dependants, my gut instinct would be to say that as your spouse I would think that she would still be eligible for that category of Visa from Korea, but that's only conjecture on my part, not hard and fast information, and I would highly encourage you not to take my word for that. My observation is that I know there are some guys here who are married to foreign nationals who have their spouses here NCS, but I freely admit I don't know the circumstances of how they are here,etc. or the rigamarole they may have had to go through to get them here.

If your wife has a Taiwanese passport, the rules that Korean immigration has concerning length of stay,etc. may be different for her than a U.S. citizen, as each country negotiates their own standings and agreements about visitations, etc. The length of time a person is able to stay in the country without a visa may be different for a Taiwanese citizen than it would be for an American citizen, and you'll have to deal with that as well as the military regs.

I don't know the answers about how your wife 's Taiwanese passport will affect her visitation,etc, myself, but I know who would...My -recommendation- to you would be to call the Korean consulate nearest you ASAP and talk to one one of their representatives. You can find a listing of and numbers for the Korean consulates by doing a google search.

If a spouse is here as an NCS spouse, he or she is not limited in the amount of time they can stay, you're here for as long as your husband's orders, but given your situation with the green card, I have no -clue- how living here for a year NCS would affect the progress of her citizenship status. I would very much recommend calling the immigrations folks at the State Department, explaining the situation to them and asking how it would affect her immigration status if she came NCS.

Obviously at this point in the game, I would presume that her citizenship status is the more important issue for you guys, and if her coming here with you non-command sponsored would affect that, then obviously coming here NCS may not be a viable option for you.

I would -definitely *highly*- recommend contacting the U.S. immigration folks as well as the Korean consulate at your earliest convienence to check into all the legalities involved in the situation overall, then make your decisions/plans
according to that information.

When you find that information, would you be so kind as to post it, please, in the event that someone else may find themselves in your position? :)


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-who hopes it all works out for you :)
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Old 06-14-2007, 10:24 AM
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Re: 0-3 Housing

If your wife is from Taiwan you may have a big problem. Check out the Reg below.

USFK Reg 190-7
APPENDIX G
LIST OF DESIGNATED COUNTRIES
Table G-1 below, lists the Designated Countries that are of Counterintelligence Concern to USFK. This
table is current as of _________________. The Designated Countries Table will be reviewed and updated
annually, as a minimum. Contact the Commander, USFK (FKJ2-CIOC-CJ2X), Unit #15237, APO AP
96205-5237, for the most current list of Designated Countries of Counterintelligence Concern to USFK.
Table G-1. List of Designated Countries of Counterintelligence Concern
Afghanistan Malaysia
Algeria Morocco
Azerbaijan Nigeria
Bahrain North Korea
Bangladesh Pakistan
Belarus People’s Republic of China*
Cuba * Includes Hong Kong and Macau
Egypt Oman
Estonia Qatar
Georgia Russia
India Saudi Arabia
Indonesia Somalia
Iran Sudan
Iraq Syria
Jordan Taiwan
Kazakhstan Tajikistan
Kuwait Tunisia
Kyrgyzstan Turkmenistan
Latvia Ukraine
Lebanon United Arab Emirates
Libya Uzbekistan
Lithuania Vietnam
Moldova Yemen
G-1
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"Peoples Republic of China" is China. (Communist China)

"Republic of China" (R.O.C.) is Taiwan. (Free China)

Don't see it on the list. Although we (U.S.) do not currently have an embassy there, (probably so we do not irk Conmmunist China), I suspect no problem.
Go with DEE, and call your nearest Korean consulate. The visas are Korean.

(If I were you, I'd look into requesting her U.S. Citizenship now, as you are on orders to leave the country. )

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It's on the list. Look real close, it is to the right of Jordan.
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you win! As gangsters usually do! I wasn't looking closely, for sure.
I don't have an excuse! Anyway, I believe we gave the right info- ask the Koreans about the visas.

You know the Russian girls, who used to frequent the bars near the military
bases, I heard, were sort of moved to the Korean bar areas, purportedly at the request of the US for "security" reasons. I'm sure they make better money from the high class Korean bars anyway!
They are still here. And there are Russian wives all over the place! So, again I suspect the Taiwanese will have no problem at all.
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Not to start a war, but where I am stationed I know an active duty Army soldier who is from Nigeria. His brother who is a green card holder who lives in New York City came here to visit him and he could not sign him on post. I think the person who is concerned should check with Pass and ID to what what the policy is.
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Not to start a war, but where I am stationed I know an active duty Army soldier who is from Nigeria. His brother who is a green card holder who lives in New York City came here to visit him and he could not sign him on post. I think the person who is concerned should check with Pass and ID to what what the policy is.
There might be a difference,in this instance however, due to the fact that it's a spouse in this case,and not a brother. A brother isn't normally entitled to the same privileges as a spouse. A spouse doesn't normally even need to be signed on base, or hasn't at any of the bases I've been to yet, even here, before I was "in the system".

Not saying that the guy shouldn't put feelers out to see if there would be any problems, but the fact that the spouse is an official military dependant and that she's applied for citizenship might actually make it less of an issue.

LOL..but first things first, a call to the Korean Immigration folks to see if she can even get into the *country* for a visit would be a good start. :)

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Re: 0-3 Housing

Military Spouse "privileges" can't be discriminated against based on nationality, sex, race or religion.

As long as she keeps her DOD ID card with her, she should be able to enter, and apply for other privileges. (My friends Russian wife had no problems obtaining privileges)

She should get her citizenship interview after 3-6 months.

Taiwanese are entitled to all Korean tourist visas for free!!

Looks like she will be commuting every 2-3 months back to Taiwan and to her residence in the states for a quick visit so she doesn't break any USFK, DOD, or Visa rules. This way she can also keep her Green Card and residence application open so she won't loose her immigration status. She will also need to return to have her citizenship interview as well. Seems like she will collect BAH after all since she will need to maintain a "residence" in the states per immigration regs.

and Yes, P.R.O.C. is Communist China.
In my wife’s opinion, R.O.C. is not "Free China" Its Taiwan.
She considers herself Taiwanese, not Chinese. She will correct anyone who calls her Chinese. ha-ha
Having lived in Taiwan myself, Taiwan is completely Independent, and has been since 1895 when China gave it to Japan. Don't believe the Chinese propaganda.

There is a De Facto Embassy in Taiwan. Its called the A.I.T. American Institue in Taiwan. It is an embassy, just with a different name.
All US military bases where handed over to the Taiwanese, and uniformed military personal had to leave the Island in 1979 when the United States dropped diplomatic relations with Taiwan. There are still Air Force people still posted as Air Attache at the AIT however. They just get a special "civilian clothes allowance"

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Sounds like the visa thing will work out. It has been a long time,but I recall there used to be a way to waive citizenship waiting time due to PCS Orders to Overseas. Anyway, best of Luck!

Re the Nigerian story- there was a similar incident here at Yongsan a while back. I believe the Yongsan soccer team had played an Iranian Team downtown, and wanted to have the next soccer game on the Post. Again, the
Iranians were not allowed on Post. So that sort of thing depends on the rules in effect at the time. You are right, spouses, male or female, shouldn't be affected.
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If the Government Employee has a non-citizen spouse, and is assigned overseas for a year or more, the spouse can apply for early citizenship.
http://pom-ima.monterey.army.mil/sit...ralization.pdf

This website has more information on this topic.
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