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Old 02-08-2006, 02:50 PM
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That's nearly a 40% (39.98) increase in just five years (only 2.26 trillion). I'm sure Bush can reach 50% or even 60% within the next three. Perhaps Bush can even reach the level of his idol, Reagan who increased the debt a whopping 179% in his 8 years.
This is the typical reaction I was expecting.

Let's see Reagan won the cold war. I guess that was too expensive for you? Let me guess, you were one of those Democrats that were trying to put a nuclear freeze on Regan because it offended the Russians?

Bush had 9-11 happen and had to remove the Taliban. Again, is this too expensive for you? I guess security isn't cheap.

So, Bush has the 9-11 attacks and two wars to fight and increased the deficit by 40% in 5 years. Clinton supposedly had the greatest economy and no wars to fight (except Allied force which was 45 days) and increased it by 40% in 5 years. I would say Bush is not doing too bad considering he had two major shocks to the economy. What was Clinton’s excuse? Again, it is silly when people say he balanced the budget. So what! We still went into more debt!

Let's not forget that 9-11 happened because Clinton was too busy purging… I mean defending himself in court. Please tell me the reactions Clinton took when the twin towers were bombed, two African Embassies bombed, Khobar Towers bombed, the Cole bombed and several other acts of terrorism? Oh yeah, he bombed a pharmaceutical plant and fired a few cruise missles into Iraq. Bin Ladin declared war on America in the middle of Clintons presidency and what was his excuse for receiving Bin Ladin from Sudan? “We didn’t have the evidence.” This is why people don’t trust Democrats with national security!

Bill Clinton should be tried in a court of law for negligence. If he read the constitution he would see that is the duty of the President to protect the citizens of the U.S.
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Old 02-08-2006, 04:25 PM
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This is the typical reaction I was expecting.

Let's see Reagan won the cold war. I guess that was too expensive for you? Let me guess, you were one of those Democrats that were trying to put a nuclear freeze on Regan because it offended the Russians?

Bush had 9-11 happen and had to remove the Taliban. Again, is this too expensive for you? I guess security isn't cheap.
The cost through 2005 for the Iraq and Afghan Wars was $357 billion. Why has Bush added $1.9 Trillion to our debt after the costs of the Afghan and Iraq Wars? This is still $300 billion more than 8 years of Clinton.
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Old 02-09-2006, 01:28 AM
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Well, just off the top of my head:

- Two towers were knocked down by two air planes causing billions to repair, you do remember these?
- Several other major buildings around the two towers we destroyed
- Pentagon hit by a third airplane and needed to be repaired
- The entire postal service had to be refitted with Anthrax and other sniffers due to the Anthrax scare
- Katrina disaster, the worse in American history
- Creation of the Homeland Defense Department
- The Global War on Terror which is more than just Iraq and Afgahnistan
- Increase in special forces by some 20,000 personnel

Then there is inflation, etc. I would have to do more research, but I think the above should be enough.

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Old 02-09-2006, 04:17 AM
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Then there is inflation, etc. I would have to do more research, but I think the above should be enough.

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NY Rebuilding and victim compensation: $28.5 Billion
Pentagon rebuilding cost: $700 Million
Katrina: $60 Billion
Creation of Homeland Security and other additonal domestic security expenses from 2001 to 2005: $55 Billion
Military spending increases: $130 Billion
Inflation: $29 Billion
Tsunami: $350 Million

In total that brings it down $300 billion; down to what Clinton was in the hole after 8 years. If Bush stays on course he'll spend $2.6 trillion compared to $1.6 trillion to Clinton, that is after I've been gracious to reduce many of the additional costs. Please do more research. Perhaps you'll eventually get to the real culprit, cutting taxes.
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Old 02-09-2006, 07:13 AM
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Please do more research. Perhaps you'll eventually get to the real culprit, cutting taxes.
Show me the proof of your statement. You continue to ask me for more research then you make general statements like this. I would like to see your research showing that Bush's tax cuts have increased the national debt. After you show me that, I will show you how Bush's tax cuts are responsible for the low unemployment and economic growth in America.

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Old 02-09-2006, 07:20 AM
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I will add more to this.

First, our deficit is 2.8% of our GDP much lower than most countries in the world. As long as our economy is growing, it is now a big deal if our deficit is low compared to the size of our economy.

Second, it is silly to place any deficit on the executive branch. In my opinion, people who do that have no clue how congress works. Last I looked MANY Democrats also voted for Bush's tax cuts. Not the same Democrats are complaining about Bush's tax cuts.

Additionally, we do have 50 states in the U.S., with 50 governors and 100 senators. Do they share any of the burdens of increasing our national deficit? Our 50 governors have more impact on the U.S. economy than any standing president. The 100 senators have a huge impact on the deficit by the spending bills they propose. Let's take a look at Hilliary Clinton who has NEVER said no to government spending.

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The U.S. budget registered a surprisingly big surplus of $20.99 billion in January as strong receipts outweighed spending, a Treasury Department report showed.
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