I think it is comical when Bill O'Reilly gets called a right winger or conservative. I watch his show a few times a month. I used to watch it a lot more, but I just don't find the time.

If you watch his show or do a little research you will find out Bill O'Reilly is:

1. Against the Death Penalty
2. Pro-Gun Control
3. Believes in Global Warming
4. Thought Elian Gonzalez should have went back to Cuba

These are a few points that make him FAR from a right-wing conservative. I would say he is right of center, but far from conservative.

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I used to watch his show all the time, but ever since that sex scandal deal I haven't. I don't really know if he did anything but I figure if he didn't he wouldn't have rolled over like he did.

Why is it if someone is "Against the Death Penalty" or "Against Abortion" they are automatically labeled as (my favorite term currently) "Rapture Right-wing conservatives." I think Bill is a televison anchor in a media that will do anything to get ratings or try to influence the everyday American who sadly gets their only information from Fox News. (disgusting) Why can't we get back to the social problems that are affecting America to define what party someone should be labeled. Why can't we have big government and privatized health-care... oops we almost do. America is flirting with disaster daily because our tenticles are in everything outside the United States when the focus needs to be at home. The times are-a-changing and without some guidence from "Big Brother" this country is in for a rude awaking.

-Ghost

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Never heard that term before.

Ah, it is better that they get their information from ONLY CNN or MSNBC?

How are we flirting with disaster? Our unemployment is roughly 5% and our economy is strong.

Not sure what you mean by this.

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Rapture-right-wing conservatism = Bush. No seriously, it is a funny term being passed around the liberal circle for conservatives who take their conservatism to the extreme. Basically they are the ones who eat, sleep, and drink the word of god and if you aren't thumping your bible daily you aren't American. There are a lot more than you think. Rapture right wingers are anti-abortion to the extreme in all cases. Your daddy raped you, too bad you are gunna have the kid. If they have their way, I hope the only sexual postion you like is missionary because they aim to ban all others. Rapture ring wingers don't even believe there are homosexuals, just non-Americans.

The list goes on and on.

-Ghost

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Wow...I don't even know what to say. To blame the President for everything, and then turn around and hope for guidance from "Big Brother" is probably one of the most convoluted things I've heard in a while. So...who's "Big Brother" ethics should we adhere to? I'm not saying that the radicals on either side are right, but what is wrong with an ethics system? All ethics systems can be pointed back to some type of religious system or another, so it's impossible to institute ethics without someone, somewhere, saying that it's faith based, and therefore should be banned.

What happened to individual responsibility?

Second, the "let's put our heads back in the dirt and forget about the rest of the world" attitude is what got us where we were during the Carter and Clinton administrations. Trade went to crap, and even Americans didn't like being American. Ever heard of the Marshall Plan? It's where we went in after WWII and helped rebuild Europe so they would have a stong economy, become our allies, and bring foreign trade to our shores. We've done that countless times since then, and it's almost always paid off in the end. We need to keep a global strategy alive and kicking so we can build other economies, become allies with more countries, and increase our trade.
Personally, I think we need another Reagan. Not a fanatic at all, but a guy that made us all proud to be Americans.

And as a side note, I watch almost every address the President makes, and I've never once seen him thump a Bible.


SSSSOOOOOOOOO...this has absolutely nothing to do with Bill O'Reilly, but it's where I saw the thread going and had to throw my 2 bits in.

Sorry Ghostface! Nothing personal...just my opinion expressed the way that yours is...

Joe

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Oh, believe me, you won't hurt my feelings, buddy. The problem with America today is that the gap between church and state is quickly closing. You say you have watched every event the presidents' spoken at then I am sure you watched his most recent speech on his veto of embryonic stem cell research. While it is perfectly fine to be personally against this method, surrounding yourself with 20 children and trying to appeal to Americans emotions rather than their rational thought is not a tactic the president should use. During the speech I actually heard one of the gentlemen behind the president say "Amen". The federal government needs to encourge medical breakthrough advances such as embryonic stem cell research not hamper the process because of personal views, which in my opinion, have no business in the White House.

-- On the other hand, I have to accept the fact that personal views and religion will always be a part of modern day politics in America. ---

I do not agree with personal-based politics and this is where I draw the assumption that we are headed toward disaster in the no-so-distant future. I hope that I am wrong and believe me when I say that I try to do my part by encouraging those around me to discuss politics whenever possible. I also think that a lot of the problems in America now stem from the general populations lack of interest in what goes on in Washington. I'm sure you already know, but we have something about to happen that hasn't surfaced in the past 50 years. We have an open presidency. That means no president running for re-election, and we know that Cheney wouldn't dare try to run, so the field is completely open, and it actually is. The media is trying desparetly to pin-point the front runners so they can start to manipulate their canidates onto the general public as quick as possible, but they are luckily having difficulty in doing so. There are a lot of things that should, will, won't, and cannot be done to change the political face and global image of America, what we really need to do is stop choosing which side is the best for me, and focus on whats best for all.

-Ghost

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Spoken like a true American! I think the debates on here are great, and I hope we, and I do mean ALL of us, continue to have them the way that we have been. Good and heated, but without kicking at each other.

So...with that said...

Yes I did get to see some of the stem cell speech, and personally, I thought it was great that he had the kiddos up there. It's just good PR, and every politician out there does it. Usually it's the Democrats that are the worst about it too...again...not that it's a bad thing, it just seems a little cheesy sometimes.

Now the guy in the background that said "Amen" is going a little too far, but who knows if that was something that the President wanted or not. We can make assumptions, but who knows. All I DO know is that it really has to be hard as hell to run THIS country!

And you're totally right about personal views and religion being part of this country's politics. That's just the way it is. We elect the officials, and we know what their beliefs are. It's just part of the package.

Now here's the really freakin' cool part, and you hit it dead on the head! It's a totally open election, and probably one of the most exciting times in US politics. I can't wait to see who runs this time. I'd love to see Condi run, but I think she wants to take over as the NFL commissioner. Too bad too. I think she's make a great President, or at least a great Vice. Who knows...anyone you like more?

Oh yeah...Bill O'Reilly...blah blah blah...

Joe

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O'Reilly? I like Fox News. CNN sometimes. All are biased one way or another.

Most all other countries are led by specific religious groups, so it is not too far fetched for a country that proffers "In God We Trust" should go ahead and admit that we do indeed, and we were founded as a haven for religious freedom. It is not disgraceful to believe in a god. I believe future wars will continue to be based on religion. The Revelations of the Christian Bible seem to be coming to pass. Do you think the Jews may well be the chosen people?
Someone said "I would ra ther live as if there were a god, rather than die and then find out there was".
Why can't we profile enemies of the state? Even if they try to hide behind Terrorism as part and parcel of their religion?
If not discriminating means being blown up, I'd discriminate.
Presidential race? I certainly wouldn't want to be a part of it. I'll vote for whomever looks good to me. I wish my friend Steve across the street would run. He was a public school teacher for 35 years. He quit once, because the Principal would not back him up against a nasty student. He was asked to come back after that Principal was removed. He went back, for more money!He knows a lot about life in the US. God bless America!