I believe many of the hard core Clinton voters are democrats and will not vote for Palin, but a very large number of people I noticed in various interview I watched on many different shows were just women who wanted to vote for a woman. They had no clue why they would vote for her other than that one fact. So if some of those votes now switch back to the republican vote and some women that wouldn't otherwise come out and vote do end up coming out, that could be all the change that is needed. It will certainly be a close race to watch at this point.

Experience by the standards of a normal VP is on the low side, but then again, it is the VP, not the President and sure it's only a heartbeat away, but that is always the case and the VP rarely makes that much difference in a presidential race. This choice may actually make a real difference in his VP pick, where Biden, I don't think will help or hurt Obama's numbers like Clinton would have done. Obama's experience is even less than Palin's so that arguement is pretty pointless IMO. She has more experience than their presidential nominee so it's still an arguement they will likely play into. Biden's experience is not nearly as important as Obama's.

True, but this was already known and didn't just pop up and I'm sure McCain did his own investigations of this to make sure he could guess the outcome and no doubt talked to her about it.

She is a woman. Who could debate anything better than that. Hilary was great at debating as well. We all know women like to talk, even if it is out of their ... um.. obviously kidding kind of on this, ^_^ So politicians are just men trying to be able to talk like women and rarely do what they say anyways. I don't think there will be much problem in this area.

Very true and it may make a change for the good of politics.

Many were truths and many were truths...stretched. Such as quoting McCain as saying he was out of touch and said he believed middle class was anyone making less than $5 million a year. McCain did in fact say this, but was making a joke and even said right after saying it and having everyone laugh that no doubt someone would use his words out of context which is exactly what Obama did. So in my mind it is a lie since Obama made it sound as if it were a serious comment from McCain. Does that mean we can take any joke Obama says as thougts on Obama's character? Many of his comments were just stretching the truth such as this one.

So McCain voted with his party 90% of the time. Obama did so 97% of the time with his votes. So how is using that statistic helpful other than the fact that he knows very few people will do more than listen to his comments. It is pretty obvious that McCain will usually vote Republican and Obama will vote Democrat.

I personally don't take ANY voting stats for politicians very seriously. It's what actually changes that matters. There's so many things they throw into a bill that you aren't usually voting on one thing, but a big lump sum of things. So you could put a million bad things into a bill and one good thing such as energy efficiency and then they vote no for the greater good, but now that vote counts against them for voting on that one good thing. They use this as a way to talk bad about the others knowing the result of the vote before it even happens in most cases. This goes for both sides obviously.

If you could actually count on what he said, then he would be an amazing president. The problem comes when words become empty and the real Obama comes out. His voting past does not depict what he says as has already been stated by Turk. Anyone can say good things, but it's a completely different thing to actually do it. His actions don't mix with his words either making it even more unbelievable. Just so you understand me though, his words were very good and very powerful and if he could actually get that accomplished I'd vote for him, but I don't trust him. If he does get elected and actually does a good job and tries to get that stuff done, then I'd actually vote for him for a 2nd term. But that's not likely to happen.

It's politicians. McCain and Romney had some seriously bad arguements, but Romney would likely have accepted a VP position if offered and would back McCain if needed. I'm sure Clinton can't stand Obama, but she's a politician and will not talk bad about her party now that it's not going to go her way no matter what. It's just an attempt to look unified just like almost everything in politics is. Looks and words, but rarely action.

I think drilling off the coast and in Alaska would help. China will now be getting our oil and Cuba will be getting paid for it instead of letting the US get more of it's own oil and stop importing so much. Every barrel is money for some other country that could be staying here.

Obama's going to spend $150 million toward energy changes. How much has Bush spent? I'd guess way more than that.

I think it's impossible to get all the things done that Obama said he wants to do. One report did say his plan would also continue to add to the national deficit. So he's making plans with money that doesn't exist just like they all do.

We're all different and I hope someday to get some real change into the White House, but I think it will take more than a president to do that. Many of our problems are our own fault, not Bush's fault. Everyone wants to blame everything on Bush, but that's just not a real arguement.

[quote=rndspringer;61673]I saw Obama's comments, and truthfully, I didn't see them as "sad or dismayed" at all. I saw both he and Joe Biden reacting as graciously as McCain had with his ad last night congratulating Barack on his historic nomination.

In that area, I thought there was a great deal of classiness all around, on all sides and given how negative campaigning can, and has been.. I thought it was a breath of fresh air to see both campaigns halting the biting for a bit to actually congratulate one another.

I have to say though.. big surprise.. I think she and McCain promise little change from the current Bush administration...

and while in your eyes, she may be the "change that the republican party has been needing".. is she the change that our *country* needs? No, I don't think she is..

Dee :)

P.S. As far as digging up dirt on Sarah Palin... -if- the Obama campaign wanted to dig up dirt on her.. they wouldn't have to work hard, the press has already done it for them, reporting on her high profile corruption case in Alaska, using her influence to try to have folks fired. Hmm..sounds like maybe she should have run for the justice department instead? :_

Obama said uh about 10 times in 20 seconds. I think he was caught way off guard. No emotion and a down looking face. I think he knows it will take a lot of his conventions "fire" away.

Unfotunately, politics is a cutthroat game. It will get even worse in the next few weeks. Truth and fiction will become indiscernable without a lot of scrutiny and knowing where to differentiate. As my former teacher in my constitutional law courses, George Gabbert, said, "The litigation is so encumbered it would be facetious to synthesize".

Personally, I've voted for McCain for personal, selfish reasons. I think he will be more inclined to take care of my needs, as a veteran and a retiree.
Obama seems like a nice young man, without any obvious redeeming social value, other than being able to please the group he is speaking to at the moment. An ordinary politician. Is he a Marxist? Very possible. Is he the Anti- Christ? Who Knows. The only thing I know for sure, he is a lawyer! (Even that is not necessarily a positive attribute!)

May the best Man win! In four years you may no longer be able to say that!
(You may have to say "Person".) Vote ASAP- time is running out!

Did you watch the speech? When he was talking about the veterans they showed a guy in kind of a praying stance. It was sad to me that people have to look for such hope. There is definitely a lot of work to be done in our country, but just listening to empty words won't change anything. I sincerely hope that no matter who gets picked, that a real change can start to take place and we can help our veterans, teachers, children more. I think many of us have similar hopes, but on core differences I'm more conservative with prolife type aspects. I'm not ultra, but to me it's similar to my views on the housing market crash. It's our own fault so I don't see a need for the government to assist with my stupid decisions. If you get pregnant because you were to stupid to use a condom or having sex when you weren't prepared to deal with the possible consequences then you need to deal with it. Not by getting rid of the child before it can get a chance at life. If you bought a house or car you can't afford then you need to deal with it. Not get rid of it or forclose or go bankrupt, but sell it and pay for the loss that was caused by your decisions. We shouldn't be relying on the government for everyday decisions. They should be there for safety, roads, infrastructure type things in general. We need more than that, but we shouldn't.

I've been working security in downtown denver during the democrat's convention and I have to say that the Obama/Biden ticket certainly seems like an unstoppable freight train at this point. I'm impressed with the choice McCain has made for his VP. Governor Palin is right on top of the energy issues, which has become the most talked about issue in the race at this point, and rightly so. There were more celebrities in downtown denver this past week than hollywood and the American people always gravitate to star power. I hope McCain and Palin are able to make a great showing during the debates, or I have a feeling that they will be sunk. cheers!

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Turk Quid Pro Quo

You must be kidding... they are going to get hammered.

I wouldn't kid. Unfortunately for America, many, many, many voters are swayed by star power, not the issues. From what I witnessed this week, Obama is a shooting star. Personally, as I posted much earlier, I, an independent, am voting for McCain. Lets hope Palin brings some star power to McCains ticket.

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Turk Quid Pro Quo

What you are not getting it that the show you clearly got sucked into this week was just that.... a show. I a friend on the CMST team that told me the same crap. The bottom line is that we are not voting for the next oscar winner, we are voting for a LEADER, and you don't need that sort of spectacle to prove you ability. In my opinion, it is demonstrations like the DNC put on this week that prove just how weak he is on the issues... they NEED the show or they wqould have nothing else.

SS.. I can tell you're a Bush supporter.. you seem to be just as out of touch with reality as the current administration!

While I do think that the election may be closer than the Obama landslide many are predicting, McCain and the beauty queen are most certainly -not- going to "Hammer" their competition, barring an unforeseen disaster on the Obama campaign's part.

I'm sorry, but.. the polls and momentum clearly show at this point that Obama's campaign clearly continues to lead , with a fairly decent margin..and the momentum seems to be picking up, with increasing numbers.

I wouldn't count McCain -out- yet but I do think realistically he's going to have an uphill battle, and he's going to have to really pour on the charisma and offer the people the same hope as Obama, to take away from that draw. Whether you agree with Obama's politics or not, the fact of the matter is, he -is- drawing the vote... However, I also think McCain's core voters are strong in their beliefs, and the gamble with Palin as VP -could- pay off for him in galvanizing the "religious right" and anti-abortion voters.

I think the likelihood for a landslide blowout, however, is negligible for either side.

Dee :)

LOL..and Turk.. I think we've just had our own historic event. We just agreed on something in the political arena :) Whoda thunk it ? :) LOL :)