Your image of Lenin is not quite right.
Stalin could as well have used any other ideology as, in fact, did many other dictators.

China and North Korea used SOME of communism ideology and this is not how communism works.

The number of victims of Stalin differs from one historian to another; many of them agree with the number of 12 millions. This is not to justify Stalin's regime, just to be more accurate with numbers.

I hate to say that, but that sounds a little hypocritical.
Since you never answered my question about Textbook Adoption Boards, I assume that you have no problems with students learning "a completely bias and slanted view of the world and not showing the other side" if it is taught from a conservative point of view. Am I right?

Why not to show simply the truth?

If American kids can't name 7 continents, then it might as well be because of poor educational system.

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Concur about the need to teach Geography. Ninety five percent of students do not know there are two Georgias! The poor geographic knowledge of todays students is appalling! We give the student freedom to choose their classes, and most take gym and athletics. I believe you can graduate with only one math class in most states.

Ivoire,

You facts are off. The deaths attributed to Stalin are much higher. Facts from Wikipedia:

http://users.erols.com/mwhite28/warstat1.htm#Stalin

You are at the low end. I placed my numbers right in the middle. And Lennin is attributed to over 4 million deaths.

Oh really? Have you studied your history? Tell me who installed Kim Jong-il as the leader of North Korea? The Russians. Who had the major influence of the North invading the South in 1950? The Russians. What army is North Koreas military based off of? The Russians. What uniform did Kim Jon-il wear before he was leader of North Kroea? A Russian uniform. North Korea is based completely on the Russian model when it comes to their economy, military and leadership style. Please don't say "some" when that is far from the truth.

Not how Communism works? Communism does not work. The Russians and Chinese are moving away from Communism and towards capitalism. North Korea and Cuba are the last hold outs. The only thing Communism produces is death and a few rich people. How many Communist leaders lived like their people? None. The lived in wealth a small part of the population.

Honestly, you know nothing about me, so please don't judge me. I am for a balanced study. The problem with liberals is when you want something in the middle, that is too conservative for them. Liberals like this teacher only want to show one side. When you ask for both sides, people like you say I want a conservative view.

What is the truth? That America is an evil force in the world? Don't be silly. The teacher's blind hatred (and it looks like yours) for Jews and the US makes him extremely bias. The truth is America has done a lot of good in the world. Yes, we have done some bad things just like every other country in the world. Overall, we have done some great things for the world. Please let me know what countries have not done bad things in the past. The British? The French? Germany? Italy? Japan? China?

You just validated my point! I am for private schools, not public. Teacher like this would be fired in a heart beat at a private school.

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Awe come on Mike, he's not attacking Jews or the US. Whats makes you think that he is? Blind hatred? I think he attempts to make very valid points with what appears to be some knowledge.

While I concur we really need to focus on developing alternate energy resources. We as a nation need to look at how we can reduce energy consumption. An analogy can be made to the $500 ear buds. The auto industry would not be developing SUV and HPO transportation, unless the market demand was there. We need to make a more conscious effort to set the pace for the country, simply buying the gas guzzlers is not the way to enter into the next decade. If the government would take a more serious approach to fining the companies for exceeding the limits on these gas guzzlers they would be able to generate revenue to apply towards making alternate resources more available. The problem is greed. The politicians, and oil companies, as well as those driving the gas guzzlers for no other purpose except they can. The last White House COS went to work for Exxon Mobil recently. While serving as the COS he was also censoring the leading scientist on global warming findings.

No, Venezuela is not the leading country we are importing crude oil from. The Persian Gulf is still ranked #1

During Civil War in Russia more than 9 millions people died in combat operations, from hunger and diseases.
Americans, Brits and the Japanese contributed to over 2 millions of those deaths during intervention in Soviet Russia.
The deaths attributed to Stalin by who? According to some of those historians Stalin killed over 60 million. Add here 20 millions died during the WWII and this number will make half of the population of Soviet Union at that time. Now, don't you think those numbers are ridiculous?
I will stay within 10-15 millions because I read much more on this subject than just statistics from your link and I know the problems the researches come across while trying to get the documents of that time.

Yes, I have. I studied it pretty thoroughly, actually. And not only Russian history.
Following your logic, Augusto Pinochet, installed by the US, was a Republican?

You are missing my point.
My point is that Russia has never been a Communist country. Neither have China nor North Korea nor Cuba. In fact, a Communist State simply never existed. Soviets were ruled by Communist Party, but even those communists admitted that they were just working their way to it. The acronym USSR stands for Union of Soviet Socialist Republics and this is what it was.

I don't sympathIze Communism; I just think that this idea is not any better or worse than any other.
Inquisition killed many people; is Jesus Christ responsible for that?


Again, we don't know how Communism works because we never tried it. But if we accept Socialism for Communism for a few minutes I will ask you how do you know what is the only thing Communism produced if you have never experienced it?
And I know many Communist leaders who lived in the very neighborhood where I lived.

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The truth is that it is usually half and half , I mean good things and bad things.
I don't like to repeat things, but I have to say again that I don't think that there is (was, will be) a country that did lots of good and not many bad things.

See, you just validated my doubts if conservatives were tolerant.

What do you think those kids, whose parents cannot afford to pay for private schools, should do? Take drugs, drink, steal, rob banks and murder other people who can afford to send their kids to private schools?

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No need to argue the Stalin numbers since statistics mean nothing to you. I have produced many links and facts and you have produced.... your opinion.

It is sill to say the Russians weren't communist. Are we to say America is not a Capitalist country because we have social programs? No one is 100% capitalist and no one is 100% Communist. The Russians founded Communism and practiced it to the death of millions. The idea of Communism was used to topple the current leaders. Weather Russia was 100% Communist is silly to make the idea of Communism sound like a good idea. The idea of Communism cost millions of lives in Russia and China. These are internal deaths and have nothing to do with World War II.

This make sno sense at all. Are you saying that Republicans are dictators? Maybe you need to read a little bit about Kim Jong-il and his life. He studied Russian Communism and was placed into the leadership position of North Korea by the Russians as they pulled out. The entire North Korea regime practices and follows Russian Communism. I suggest checking out the Kim Jon-il Biography. The entire North Korean military is based on the Russian doctrine!

You obviously know little about American private schools. You also haven't read much on the school voucher program Bush has proposed that would allow parents with little to no money pay for private school. The Democrats and the teacher unions are against school vouchers because the incompetent teachers would loose their jobs and many would not be hired in the private school system. This would make schools compete for school money. Right now the public school system is a failure. Kids are graduating from public schools well below the rest of the world.

It is always nice to hear people that say they do not trust the government, to say they trust the government to run our schools.

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I just received this from a friend. I have no idea if any of this is true or not, but thought I would forward it on. You can each draw your own conclusions. Snopes doesn't have anything yet.






From: RADM Carey
Bcc: Franc49108
Subject: Jill Carroll's "release in Iraq" and how the libs will use it to dupe America
Date: Fri, 31 Mar 2006 11:16:03 AM Eastern Standard Time

I just heard from a good friend of mine who attended the University of Massachusetts when Jill Carroll was a journalism student there and a reporter on the school newspaper. Since UMASS is not Ohio State, he not only personally knew her there, but read her articles, and what he has to say is incredibly unsettling if you have seen her on TV the past few days since her release. To suggest she is about to be used by all of liberalism and the leftist media to hurt the USA and portray further abandonment of our troops "to the troops" is suggested in his note to me, which I have paraphrased to keep his identity confidential. I know this guy well and he is a super straight shooter, and his knowledge is firsthand. Read on:


"I have some inside information that I ask you circulate so that everyone is not blindsided by what seems likely to happen once the leftists begin to use the Jill Carroll release by the terrorists in Iraq. I was amused to see America's media this morning debating whether Jill Carroll is suffering from the "Stockholm Syndrome" as a result of her captivity in Iraq. In case you and your colleagues find yourselves somehow being drawn into this debate, which I expect will only grow in the next couple of days once she starts giving major media interviews, I wanted to give you a bit of background on Jill. I actually know Jill quite well from UMass, where she was a reporter for the school newspaper. When Jill makes comments about how her suffering was nothing compared to the Iraqi people and that she is rooting for the insurgents, Jill is NOT suffering from Stockholm Syndrome. She is an extreme liberal [probably more communist/socialist]; she has never been a fan of America [which she used to spell Amerikkka in her articles], she hates the military, and she despises "republikkkans" as she likes to write. I have no doubt that she went to Iraq with a political agenda and wouldn't be surprised to hear some outrageous things come out of her mouth in the upcoming days. She is an activist way beyond Cindy Sheehan------ so watch out. We are in for a whole string of anti-us and anti-military comments. Mark my words, you are going to see her on Larry King talking about how the military is abusing the Iraqi people and how bad the war is, and about how righteous her captors are."



So----- to be forewarned is to be forearmed. Please make sure we get this into the hands of as many folks on the side of the USA and the troops as possible, as she is surely going to be used by the media to try to undermine all that is going on in Iraq.

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