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Old 10-18-2007, 02:42 PM
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Cool Turkey 100 years ago?

The US Congress, in a moment of brainlessness, decided to condemn Turkey for possibly being guilty of genocide 100 years ago. An unnecessary thing to do, and poorly timed. It caused the Turks to withdraw their Ambassador from Washington, and caused them to begin reconsidering our use of airbases in Turkey.
I was more than pleased when the President of the United States put Congress in their place this morning, in a news conference which equals or exceeds any event I have seen by any other president since Kennedy told Russia they must take their missiles out of Cuba.
I hope you get to see a re-run this evening.

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Re: Turkey 100 years ago?

Being almost thanksgiving I didn't know what the hell you was talking about. I was like, "Who did the bird try and kill?"
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Re: Turkey 100 years ago?

Ha Ha, Good one Dr Worm. I said it before and I'll say it again, as corrupt as the old republican leadership of Delay and company might have turned out to be, the current so-called 'leadership of pelosi and reid is the most unimpressive pair ever in the history of our country, IMHO.
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Re: Turkey 100 years ago?

While my bias urges me to say negative things about the Dems, honestly I think I'd enjoy a fresh start in the legislative branch all together. Maybe less...politicians in the next go-round.
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Re: Turkey 100 years ago?

I wonder if this might spark another war??

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Re: Turkey 100 years ago?

There are countless sources which show that no genocide was commited by the Turks against the Armenians. In fact, many Turks were killed by Armenians. The documentary, Sari Gelin (The Yellow Bride) shows it all. It is not biased, and has a lot of prominent Americans who show the faults in Armenia's arguement.

In 1915, the Ottoman Empire was falling apart, it wasn't concerned about killing Armenians. Not to mention that given the small size of the Armenian population back then, if a genocide had truly been commited, in the numbers the Armenians claim (which seem to go up every year), then today, it's doubtful that there would be as much Armenians as there are.

I don't want to write too much, but I just want to make sure that you don't believe these lies. Turkish historical archives and governmental archives are all open. Foreigners have come, looked, and found no evidence of genocied. Why are the Armenian archives closed to the public?

What about the countless Turkish statesmen and politicians that were killed by Armenians in the late 1900's?

A wise man once said, if a lie is told enough times, people will eventually believe it. Please, don't be fooled by the Armenian lies.
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Re: Turkey 100 years ago?

The congressional vote alone wouldn't have pissed off Turkey if it wasn't a last straw, that was added to the more serious issues that Turkey so far hadn't expressed in public.

Turkey wasn't one of those neighbors who felt any threat from Iraq that Bush wanted us to believe - in fact, only Iran would have felt any threat from Saddam, prior to 2003. But in the post invasion era, Turkey now has an active and aggressive terrorist threat to their country, in the form of Kurds killing Turks. Bush has been reluctant to acknowledge this fact because he needs the Kurd's support so badly over there.
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Re: Turkey 100 years ago?

[quote=Vendetta;58751]There are countless sources which show that no genocide was commited by the Turks against the Armenians. In fact, many Turks were killed by Armenians. The documentary, Sari Gelin (The Yellow Bride) shows it all. It is not biased, and has a lot of prominent Americans who show the faults in Armenia's arguement."

In 1915, the Ottoman Empire was falling apart, it wasn't concerned about killing Armenians. Not to mention that given the small size of the Armenian population back then, if a genocide had truly been commited, in the numbers the Armenians claim (which seem to go up every year), then today, it's doubtful that there would be as much Armenians as there are."
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Lucky for the Armenians that they were Christians and not Jews, so they were allowed into this country during the years of their troubles in Turkey - not so the Jews, who were sent back to Germany if they tried to emigrate here. Actually, the Armenians emigrated to alot of nearby countries to save themselves.

Geez V, are you a holocaust denier too? Sure, there was killing on both sides (and its sacreligious to acknowledge that within my Armenian family) but the Turks had the better organizations - and the authority to do it to bigger numbers.
It was after the Brits invaded Gallipoli that made the r/w turks escalate their differences with the Armenians, thanks in part to the bellicose arrogance of the Brits declaring a Christian crusade in Turkey, to take back Constantinople from the Muslims. Armenians then became a bigger threat as Christian allies to the crusaders and thats what prompted the Turk army to get involved to rid their rear areas of Armenians for security. Armenians were made to be seen by the Turkish propaganda organs as not being "good Turks" so not to bring any pity on whatever happened to them.
How has the "open Turkish archives" dealt with their herding a population of displaced people into a barren region, for them to die from thirst and hunger? The result of that influenced Hitler into believing he could do the same to the Jews, when the world reaction to the Armenian's plight wasn't very strong.
(What, ...weren't the Armenian women and children strong enough to survive a death march? Must not be Turkey's fault, to those who can judge 'bias', eh?)
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