Military recruiters, confronted by crowd, leave campus job fair

mike · #1 04-12-2006, 04:57 PM

I am starting to really hat stinky, liberal activists. Not only do they need to shower, they need to learn what Freedom of Speech means. Why is it that liberals continue to say how Bush limits their Freedom of Speech, and then they go right ahead and limit freedom of speech every day on college campuses! Each week I loath liberals more and more for their hypocrisy and stinky body stench.

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Four military recruiters hastily fled a job fair Tuesday morning at UC Santa Cruz after a raucous crowd of student protesters blocked an entrance to the building where the Army and National Guard had set up information tables.

Members of Students Against War, who organized the counter-recruiting protest, loudly chanted "Don't come back. Don't come back" as the recruiters left the hilltop campus, escorted by several university police officers.

"The situation had degraded to the point where there was a possibility of injury to either a student or law enforcement officer. We certainly didn't want that to happen,'' said Capt. Will Griffin, one of the Army recruiters.

Universities that receive federal funds are required to allow military recruiters on campus. But campus officials had worried that Tuesday's protest would get out of hand as it had last April, when Students Against War protesters surrounded the table where military personnel sat, and hundreds of other demonstrators engaged in an angry protest outside. Some of the recruiters reported that their tires had been slashed and one employee at the career center was injured.

Kliger said officials had tried to engage the anti-war student group in discussions in the weeks leading up to the fair. But when talks broke down, officials began privately hoping for rain and brought in extra police.

I also find it funny that stinky, hippy, anti-war activists are more violent that military men:

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Still, the Army's Griffin said he sensed that some of the students were "looking for action" and decided to pack up their table before things got out of hand and someone got injured.

And off course stinky, hippy, anti-war protestors wants outweigh everyone else’s, even people looking to be part of the military.

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Students Against War members said they were pleased that their counter-recruiting effort forced the military personnel off campus, at least for the time being.

"We're saying it's not OK to recruit on high school campuses, it's not OK to recruit on university campuses,'' Marla Zubel, a UC Santa Cruz senior and member of Students Against War, said. "In order to stop the war, you have to make it more difficult to wage war."

But at least one student, Cody James, said he was disappointed that he couldn't get in to speak with the military personnel.

"It's frustrating,'' said James, a senior majoring in politics. "I'm not a Republican. I'm not a conservative. I don't support the war. It's about finding a career."

Parisok · #2 04-12-2006, 05:29 PM

I agree they are pretty stupid. Shut down the ability to recruit then it is your fault when you get drafted to support the war. The military is probabley the best thing going for any one with no ambition to go to college. Not many jobs offer you choice of training, 30 days paid vacation and free medical. Yes you have the chance of being shot at but at least in the military unlike the streets you get a gun and bullets to shoot back.

Bob · #3 04-12-2006, 06:44 PM

Wasn't it Winston Churchill that said something to the effect of 'If you're young and not liberal, you're heartless. If you're old and not conservative, you're brainless.'

I find it sad that these young students don't realize that a strong military is what enables them to act the way they do. The sacrifices service members make ensure their way of life. I wish I could sit down and talk with them about their unrealistic world view. War is a horrible thing, but to disband or reduce our military to an ineffective force is to invite war into our doorstep.

They'll figure it out hopefully.

Parisok · #4 04-12-2006, 08:51 PM

The problem with the young people is that they are taught to read, study and regurgitate. In truth they should be taught to research to find all angles, question when there is doubt generated by listening to all views, and discuss all possible solutions and results.
That, to the best of my knowledge is not taught in any school except the one of hard knocks. I will agree that getting a college education has expanded my knowledge, but I have found that the wisdom and yes many times the BS that comes from the elders of society is a no longer a used learning tool. Many of my friends have said, that when they have gone back to Korea, the respect and honor that was present for elders in their younger days is not present in the current generation.
Of course many blame the US for it, as they feel it is our western culture that has corrupted our own youth and now theirs. To that I say Horse Pucky! Unless they want to admit they they are blind sheep that have no societal leaders and must follow us. Ok, getting off the soap box so others may get on.

mike · #5 04-12-2006, 09:10 PM

This video is a fine example.

VIDEO

From what I gather, there is a group of people rallying for the war. They are simply carrying banners and walking. They are pro-war activists.

So what do the stinky, hippies do? They show up, scream and assault the people protesting. Can you guess which ones are the stinky hippies? Hint: they are the ones that look like they haven't showered, grown up yet, and smell like pot.

Left wingers make me sick. I have to hear day in and day out how their freedoms are being taken from them. Then you see videos and articles like these and see they are actually the ones trying to silence others. Hypocrisy at its worse.

Mr. Joe · #6 04-13-2006, 01:33 AM

I think "Western" ideas and examples have, to a degree, corrupted the morals of other countries where previously they had more respect for elders.
Unfortunately, we westerners do not always bring improvements to other cultures, althought that may be, and has been, our sincere intention.

It seems to me we just don't learn from history. It sure looks like we are going to drop a smart bomb on some folks soon, who also didn't learn from history.

Using my limited math skills-it seems like two "F's" in history do not add up to a passing grade. We already swatted a hornets nest, and I believe we will do it again! Riling up that many hornets increases our chances of being stung by something like double!

I'm with Parisok-those anti -war kids will end up getting drafted if they keep telling the patriotic volunteers they are wrong!

Parisok · #7 04-13-2006, 06:14 AM

One thing I have observed is that Democracy is not the right way for every one. In order for a democratic society to work you first need an educated and well informed public. Some societies because of their society will do better as a kingdom or under a dictator ship. My prime example is Yugoslavia under Tito they were united and actually making some progress as a nation but now there is no Yugoslavia. Any place where tribal or religious factions control the people a democracy will probably not work.
the same for industralzation some countries can not make that change and need to stay farming.

Parisok · #8 04-13-2006, 01:39 PM

I said this earlier "Many of my friends have said, that when they have gone back to Korea, the respect and honor that was present for elders in their younger days is not present in the current generation." I addressed this in my blog Back in 2005 about American Kids. Old Army's Blog: Respect those with a little gray! It has a link to a Fox News article that kind of set me off. I thought it might apply to this thread, as we kind of went off in this direction. I know respect for elders is a big deal with my wife and with me but seems to be missing in some of the current generation.

mike · #9 04-14-2006, 01:58 AM

There is an update to this story. Finally, some lawyers doing some good!

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April 12, 2006 For Immediate Release Contact: William Perry Pendley
DENVER, CO. Secretary of Defense Donald Rumsfeld should withhold federal funds from a California college given the failure of the college to ensure the safe presence of military recruiters on campus, the Secretary was advised by a public interest law firm in a letter released today. According to news reports, military recruiters were forced to flee yesterday from a University of California Santa Cruz job fair because of a raucous mob. Mountain States Legal Foundation advised Rumsfeld that the college’s actions violate the Solomon Amendment, which requires that colleges permit military recruiters on campus or lose all federal funds. UC Santa Cruz received $80 million in federal funds during 2005. A unanimous Supreme Court ruled the Solomon Amendment constitutional early last month.

“It is outrageous that members of the Armed Forces, who are asked to serve in harm’s way in Afghanistan and Iraq, are driven from a campus by a mob in America,” said William Perry Pendley, president and chief legal officer of Mountain States Legal Foundation. “Unless Secretary Rumsfeld responds to this craven violation of federal law, radicals on other campuses will be emboldened, will endanger the lives of men and women in uniform, and will deny students the right to learn how they may serve their country.”

The Solomon Amendment, named after the late Congressman Jerry Solomon (R-NY), requires colleges and universities to allow military recruiters on campuses “at least equal in quality and scope to the [degree of] access to campuses and to students that is provided to any other employer.” The law was enacted in 1996 but was not enforced by the Clinton Administration.

On September 19, 2003, Forum for Academic and Institutional Rights (FAIR), a group of 24 law schools and faculties that oppose military recruiters on college campuses, and its allies filed a lawsuit against Secretary Rumsfeld and five other cabinet officers in the U.S. District Court for the District of New Jersey. On November 5, 2003, the District Court ruled against FAIR.

On November 29, 2004, the Third Circuit, by a 2-1 ruling, held the Solomon Amendment violates the freedoms of speech and association of the law schools and their professors because it suppresses their free speech and forces them to associate with a message they “abhor,” that is, the military’s policy as to homosexual activity. The dissent, noting the sophistication of law school faculties and students, wrote that they were able to disassociate themselves from the military’s “message.” The Supreme Court agreed to hear the case on May 2, 2005, after considering a brief filed by Mountain States Legal Foundation. The case was argued on December 6, 2005. On March 6, 2006, the Court upheld the law by a vote of 8-0.

Mountain States Legal Foundation is a nonprofit, public interest law firm dedicated to individual liberty, the right to own and use property, limited and ethical government, and the free enterprise system. Its offices are in the Denver, Colorado, metropolitan area.

Gangster · #10 04-17-2006, 09:43 PM

This was what it was like during the Vietnam War with colleges.

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