I couldn't resist the urge to post this thread and hope to learn what others think. Here my question:

Is marijuana harmful and should it be legalized ?

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Is marijuana harmful
Any drug when used to excess is harmful

should it be legalized
Have they invented a way they can accuratly measure you are under the influence and at what level? Until that is available Legalization is not an option. Besides I don't need any help being parinoid and having the munchies

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That's a good one!

They can check the hair folicle. But I don't know if they can check the amount. I hoping chucksnee going to view this thread for the next method. I'm sure it wouldn't be and will never be a preferred method

Fecal testing, 80% of the THC exits the body this way and every few want to pay the $$$ for the test. It's bad emough in trying to get a UA, who's going to be comfortable be watched takening care of the real business

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This was up for a vote in Nevada before I left to move here. The biggest thing that was stopping it is that there is no way to tell if THC is currently imparing your abilities the hair, Urine, feces and blood will all contain evidence of THC for several days after you use the drug especially for an extended period of time. There is to my current knowledge a way of measuring how much THC is imparement. and there id no quick inexpensive method for police to use to check other than they feel in their judgement you are impared. That is not good enough ...... If we keep this at the top long enough Chucksee may comment.
I have PMed him asking him to comment.

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You picked a subject I am very opinionated about, Thanks! I will begin by saying that I smoked pot a very long time ago and I didn't care for it then. It is not my personal preference for a relaxing substance to use. I'd rather sit at the bar with a cold OB and toss the darts. Now having said that, Parasok stated "Any drug when used to excess is harmful." Of course. I will go further and say that anything, anything at all done to excess will be harmful. Now in the meantime, the USA is mssing the boat when it comes to pot and hemp. Hemp would be one of the most useful crops available to replace the unhealthy tobacco crops for those farmers to remain profitable. The problem is separating the industrial hemp from the smokable hemp. I think it is high time, no pun intended, that the country leagalized the cultivation, use and thus taxation of all hemp/cannabis plants. A person is no more apt to become addicted to smoking pot than they are to being addicted to anything else. People with addictive personalities with inevitably find something to feed the addiction, ( I don't count the real physically addicting opiates and narcotics in this theory, people who use those will be physically unable to quit without extreme intervention). We can free the cost of imprisoning pot smokers from the public coffers, raise the tax revenue and provide steady employment and business opportunity to a new commodity.

Well, I feel that it should not legal. There are numerious studies that show it does impare your awarness and so on. Just like all other drugs it does something to your body in the long run.

My run in's with marijuana have all been bad, so i havea bad taste in my mouth about drugs period. 3 half brother, 2 are dead and 1 in jail.

Who knows that if you take Tylonel and Drink alcohol it makes your liver turn to mush (over a period of time).

Now on the other hand if it was legal then lets TAX the H$LL out of it.

As for testing as of now i'm not sure if anything new has come out but if you assume that someone is "HIGH" then the only way to test is by urine and the others mentioned above. Hair is for long term usage (how long have you been doing this drug).

Their would be no "REAL" way for an on the spot "you're HIGH" test. Unless he has several bags of Doritios in the front seat....

Really, I feel it does not need to be legal.

Hope that helped all.

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there are newer test that are being used for many jobs where pre-screening for drug use is required along with extensive background checks. Anyone who works for the proprieter of any airport these days probably knows what I am talking about. I went through it last year before I was hired to work at Denver International. When you do the golden flow into the cup, the tester performs a dip strip test that detects drugs, including THC at a rough level. I'm not sure how accurate it is but there were many who failed it and then failed the actual lab test. (not me, thank you). The specimen is sent on for the normal lab golden flow tests. It is the lab tests that are the deciding factor , however, from what I gathered, the test strip tests were always hand in hand with a failed lab test. And, of course smoking pot impares judgment, just as alcohol and evrything that people intake for relaxation and social intercourse. Many people have been lost to alcohol, drugs, sex, and anything else you can think of that may become addicting to many folks. Criminalizing pot possession and use only serves to fill up the prison cells. Drug criminalization has not detered drug use one iota.

It should be legalized. I don't know anyone that would suddenly rush out and smoke pot because it is legal. It is readily available in any city in America. If it were legal to smoke pot it would bring the street price down and get rid of a lot of crime. It would also free up prision space violent offenders.

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Good point Mike. I don't know which way to go on this. I have known quite a few smokers in my time, and as long as that's all they imbibed, then they were usually easy to get along with. I have never been in a fight with someone who was high on weed, or even argued. On the other hand, I have been a bouncer and seen waaaaaaaaay to many seriously violent altercations, and it goes without saying, that most people who drink, end up in a vehicle at some point, and to be honest, how many bad car accidents or deaths can be attributed to smoking weed?

I know that most of us are familiar that in most middle eastern countries you can't drink, or that it is very difficult. But, smoking hash is the norm. Alchohol is a drug, and a powerful one at that. So, who knows, maybe weed should be legalized.

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The only crimes that I know involving marijuana are possession and possession with intent. Strip method of testing isn't an accurate way, neither with the Ontrac system. Hair folicle testing is the preferred method of many. They have this thing in the states, which started in CA called DRE-Drug Recognition Expert. It's a law enforcement officer who recives specialized training. They monitor vital signs and perform the Ontrac test. I asked a DRE about having any false positives. He boosted performing 60 tests with none and thought it was the best thing since unsalted butter. I replied that I performed 3000 plus with said system and had between 10-12% of those test has false positives. Which required lab testing. I'm glad to have this many replies. Gotta go

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