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Old 06-10-2007, 06:48 PM
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How do you think about learning English by phone ?

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These days some people are paying money to learn English by phone

Isn't it crazy? well the whole world has gone crazy!

What the hell?

Why should someone learn English by phone?

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Above writing is copied from some forum and 'some people' is Korean.
Actually, korean people are learning english by phone.
What do u think about its effect ?
Really, Is it crazy ?
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Re: How do you think about learning English by phone ?

You asked me about learning English methods, and I got busy and failed to answer. I'll try here....

Having taught in Korea, this "English by Phone" will likely be just another major waste of money.

Such a method might work a little for advanced speakers who want some practice on listening skills. It would be directly practicing one of the harder aspects of speaking in a foreign language - talking on the phone.

Here in the US and elsewhere, they have the right idea on language learning - total emersion is the way to go - but that is impossible to find unless you go to a country where that language is native....

If you want to learn English better, however, you can try to increase the amount of "emersion" you have with it.

Try thinking in English. Seriously. At home sometimes. Walking in the street alone. Riding the subway. Anywhere, just start thinking of English conversations in your head.

Listen to English music.

Sometimes when at home, turn on AFKN or put in an English movie - just to use it as background sound as you do other things.

Watch more English movies and try to avoid the subtitles.

Read and read and read and read more English......

It takes time and patience and effort - which is why I failed to learn Korean badly - but to progress well - it helps to try to get as much exposure to the language as possible.

The "English camps" are a good idea - if the people involved really will only use English all the time.

Some schools here in the US will do something like that with a foreign language. They have a class where students agree to live on the same dorm hall and only speak the foreign language in the dorm and with each other.

It takes discipline and is natural to cheat on however.....
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Re: How do you think about learning English by phone ?

There is a spouse here that I know who does this. She said that she gets paid about $12 an hour to talk about 10-15 minutes to people who want to practice their English. They are people who already know English but are in positions like Shsong were they don't know anyone who speaks the language so that they can practice. I say, if it helps and they can afford the cost, why not do it.
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Re: How do you think about learning English by phone ?

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You asked me about learning English methods, and I got busy and failed to answer. I'll try here....

Having taught in Korea, this "English by Phone" will likely be just another major waste of money.

Such a method might work a little for advanced speakers who want some practice on listening skills. It would be directly practicing one of the harder aspects of speaking in a foreign language - talking on the phone.

Here in the US and elsewhere, they have the right idea on language learning - total emersion is the way to go - but that is impossible to find unless you go to a country where that language is native....

If you want to learn English better, however, you can try to increase the amount of "emersion" you have with it.

Try thinking in English. Seriously. At home sometimes. Walking in the street alone. Riding the subway. Anywhere, just start thinking of English conversations in your head.

Listen to English music.

Sometimes when at home, turn on AFKN or put in an English movie - just to use it as background sound as you do other things.

Watch more English movies and try to avoid the subtitles.

Read and read and read and read more English......

It takes time and patience and effort - which is why I failed to learn Korean badly - but to progress well - it helps to try to get as much exposure to the language as possible.

The "English camps" are a good idea - if the people involved really will only use English all the time.

Some schools here in the US will do something like that with a foreign language. They have a class where students agree to live on the same dorm hall and only speak the foreign language in the dorm and with each other.

It takes discipline and is natural to cheat on however.....
Thanks a lot for your answer.
But English lang is still very hard to me.
If Im born in Human again in the next life, I'd like to born in English Area as you. It is my desire.
I sent many time in the school for studying english. And I still doing it.
And I still don't speak very well it. I look like I need more time and more practice for it.
And here forum is very nice place for it.
So, I don't leave from here although some people are hate me.
I'd like to very well speak with english as you, so I'd like to make a lot of friend. So, I'd like to hear their thinking. I'd like to hear your thinking.
I doing endeavor for them now. I just started one step hardly in here forum.

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Re: How do you think about learning English by phone ?

As I said, to improve, you can try to "immerse" yourself in it week after week.

Listen to English music, English language tapes or CDs, watch English movies or AFKN. Even if you are doing something else, play those sounds for background noise.

Keep an English diary/journal.

Read, read, read, read, read, read, read, read, read....

When you are doing something that doesn't require too much brain work, try thinking in English. Have conversations with yourself. Imagine different conversations similar to the ones you have in your day-to-day life.

I saw 2, maybe 3, Korean students in the hakwons I worked at who went from low level ESL classes to being very fluent in their conversation. But only 2 or 3 out of them did so.

Part of it is also just a more natural ability - like learning a musical instrument. Some people just pick it up faster.....

I gave up on graduate school in Korean Studies because I was obviously below average in learning languages....
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Re: How do you think about learning English by phone ?

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There is a spouse here that I know who does this. She said that she gets paid about $12 an hour to talk about 10-15 minutes to people who want to practice their English. They are people who already know English but are in positions like Shsong were they don't know anyone who speaks the language so that they can practice. I say, if it helps and they can afford the cost, why not do it.
A friend of mine was doing this gig for awhile. The work wasn't bad but the employer was inconsistent about paying him (e.g., paycheck was every two weeks on Fridays, then 15 days, then after the employer got his money, etc.). The employer was a poor businessman and my friend gave up this "job". He ended up taking a position with another company where the pay was better and consistent (about W2,500,000 per mo.), and about 10 minutes from where he lived.

I hear this gig was trying to take root in the States but that guy (not my friend) gave it up and returned here to Korea.
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